Iron supplementation to improve sleep?

Lol, Marijke, my friend suggested sleeping tablets and gin - sleeping tablets for baby and gin for mommy

Charnenay, separation anxiety is said to be at a peak at 8/9 months, so I reckon if our little girls can understand that we have NOT left them forever while they are sleeping it might help a little. I will report back.

Yaz, Dh was also saying that we should maybe move her back to our room - worth a try.

The best thing for sleep training - rescue remedy.....for mommy

I'd have huge struggles with B to get her to sleep during the day, as in I went from 0 to 10 in the "I'm getting fed up with this now" and the higher my fedupness went the less likely she was to sleep, so 10 drops of rescue for me and she was in lala land within 5 minutes - no medication for her

Ja, the good old mommy guilt - I guess it's part of the package and hard to get rid of. I'm not having major guilt issues but do feel guilty for one thing: giving Lilly to a creche which she hated and where they let her cry for hours on end! I'm pretty sure that contributed big time to her sleep issues. I can't reverse it now and I'm trying to move on - I'm super happy with our nanny and so is Lilly.

Charnenay, Lilly doesn't have any sleep props other than being rocked and being sung to occasionally. She has always been rather high maintenance and has never ever fallen asleep on her own. She will get there when she is ready. Of course attachment parenting has the one 'drawback' that it makes baby rather dependent on the parents, but I'm fine with that for now.

Julz, I'm aware of the challenging toddler phase ahead and I'm sure it'll be...hmm...interesting. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Hubby and I have decided to go with our gut feeling and move her cot back into our room as from tonight. Hopefully it'll make a difference when she feels we are close by and she doesn't have to 'call' for us. If not, so be it - I'm trying to take it one day at a time.

So long, keep the Espresso coming

Julz, that is exactly what I realised this weekend and am afraid of.

Yaz, glad to hear you are in better spirits this morning. Hopefully Lilly will start sleeping better soon.

Girly recommended Rescue Rest and I think I am going to try that with Emily - worth a shot.........

Also, I was still at home this morning when my mom was trying to get her to sleep and I noticed that she is also singing her to sleep now. And here i was wondering why she was humming and getting frustrated and fighting her sleep when dh or I try to put her down - she wanted us to sing!!! I told my mom that this was not on because now Emily has way too much emotional crutches at sleeping time:

Dummy
Hassie Poppie (Blanky type thing)
Being Rocked
Being patted
Being sung to
Sleep Sheep playing stream noise in the background

No wonder she is not able to go back to sleep on her own when waking through the night.

so, from today, I have told my mom to cut out 1 thing at a time - as of today: No more singing. Next week, no more patting, following week, no more rocking, following week, I am REALLy hoping that we can try and put her down to fall asleep on her own again with just the following comfort items: Dummy, Hassie Poppie and Sleep Sheep. That's where we were while I was home with her and she was sleeping through the night then, so I'm hoping we can get back there.

I know you have a new nanny, so it may be worthwhile finding out how she is getting Lilly down for naps because maybe you've got a similar situation. Also, emily only naps for 30 minutes max when we rock her to sleep but on Saturday, I let her fall asleep on her own (even though I let her lay on my bed) and she napped for almost 2 hours. So, I do think that she will sleep much better if she falls asleep on her own. So, Im hoping to get back there, fingers crossed.

Good luck with Miss Lilly - saw the new pics of her on facebook, soooo pretty

Lol Charneney.

MommyN has made the best point here so far.

Acceptance is actually key.

I spent months angry at Dylan for not sleeping and then one night I just gave in and actually told him that he is the winner here. I give up and if this is what he needs then so be it. that was at 5 months.

Something in me changed. I guess I was calmer after that, BUT at 7 months even if I was fine with getting up 6 times a night, my body and my brain wasn't and for Dylan's sake and mine I had to sleep train.

Do what you need to do. Throw the guilt out of the window though. If you want to be a successful parent, you simply can't feel guilty. Obviously your child needs love and kindness, but more importantly they need a parent who is going to set limits. If you think the sleep training is bad, wait till they are two and test you on everything. As in everything!!!!! What to eat, where to sit, how to sit, how you must sit, where you must sit etc. If you feel guilty everytime you are going to have to make a stand, you are going to have issues.