Oct/Nov 2008 mommies!

Morning ladies,

Has anyone here used the tablets to dry your milk up? Sh1t I think there was a mistake at the pharmacy I don't know but I took them before bedtime thinking they could start to work over night when there's no stimulation and I woke at 3am in agony, I am so engorged I am having to change breast pads every couple of hours because I'm leaking so much milk, I am sooooo sore, this is the worst engorgement I have had since the birth and I don't want to express because that will just stimulate production. I wanted to take tabs so I didn't have to suffer and ride out the engorgement like last time but this is worse. OUCH! I'm sending Elwyn to speak with the pharmasist this morning because I'm sure this can't be right, why would anyone pay R300 for tabs that make you so sore.

Helen- Try the S26 it's apparently the closest you can get to BM so hopefully shouldn't give as much gas. I find Paed's don't like Lactogen they always suggest Nan or S26 but C loved the lactogen and the boys much prefer it to the nan. I must say I have also noticed less winds on the Lactogen compared with the Nan.

I'm only having to give Jono the colic meds once a day and it seems to have helped him for the entire day, no more cramps and he's farting and pooping really easily.

Also I checked in the freezer and I have enough EBM to give them for another 2w which will mean I gave them BM for the same length of time as C which I'm a bit happier about because C hasn't been a sick baby so maybe 8w is good enough for the immune system.

I wonder if I should jump in a hot bath to relieve these breasts but that might also stimulate production? I am so sore I can't bear to move.

Ally- hope your journey is going well. I forgot to say, I love the way your 2 interact, it sounds like so much fun to watch, I can't wait til mine are the same age, I love the toddler stage.

WRT steralization being a big step, I do have 3 children now which is more than average (well for a Brit anyways) but I think more than just having 3 kids the hardest bit is that I have 2 at the same time to raise. I think Ally can vouch that after having twins you wouldn't want another child for quite some years, probably more like 5 and by then I'll be 33 and Elwyn 43. I know my body well and after 2 C-secs I know that I don't want to put my body through a third. I always fancied being a surrogate but it's the pregnancy and C-sec that would not want to do again so that's now completely out of the equasion. Can you imagine if I fell pregnant with twins again? I know the odds are small but it does and can happen and I can't guarentee that it won't. Dr said to me he'll make the appointment but I have to go hjome and think carefully and I can cancel the appointment if I want to so on the way home I was desperately searching for something in my heart that says 'maybe, just maybe' but to be completely honest there was nothing and thje more I looked for an excuse to cancel actually the more excited about doing it I became and then I knew this is definately the right thing.

Hello

So I took both to the paed yesterday, Oliver is a-ok, clocking 16.4kg and a very tall 1mt lol. He's very happy with everything, doesn't think there's too much wrong with him not talking but sent us for a hearing test just to be sure, Oliver's hearing is perfect so it basically comes own to him being a lazy little tyke who doesn't feel the need to talk just yet lol. He said if there's no improvement in the next 6 months then we need to look at speech therapy but for now we can just continue encouraging him.

As for Nina, she's also doing well, both our kids are off the chart when it comes to their height and weight lol. He reccomended immediately stopping with the Lactogen which I was going to have to do anyway because Nina really doesn't like the taste, she gags on it and was only drinking just enough to keep her happy, certainly not enough to thrive. He's suggested going back to the Nan and then giving her one or two bottles of Novalac IT each day until her stools are normal. She had a normal movement today so i haven't given her any but I'll see how we get on tomorrow as it could just be the meds still working on her. He said if she still doesn't seem happy on the Nan then to try S26, I still had Nan in the cupboard so I've put her back on that and her bowel movements have immediately improved but I have a nasty feeling I may still need to change formula as not only does the Nan give her terrible wind she also doesn't seem to like the taste of that either - little fusspot. I think I'm going to give her a week or so and see how we get on with the Nan and then take it from there.

Everybody always says no two children are the same and I suppose I kinda took it for granted, Oliver was so easy, as soon as I made the change to formula he was much happier, I gave him Nan, he started thriving and settled into a routine immediately. I just don't feel like I've got it down with Nina yet, it still feels like something isn't quite right (and I'm pretty sure its the formula), I wonder if my mothering instinct is right?! I don't want to change her formula immediately because I'm terrified of causing constipation again but I'm almost certain that that's what I need to do - like I say I'll give it a week or so and then see.

Funnily enough I was chatting with mum about it and she said compared to my brothers (she had 3 boys then me) I was really hard work, it took them a long time to find the right formula for me (all of us were bottle fed as my mum had to have C-sections with us and her body went into shock after each op so her milk never came in, back in those days c-sections were done under general anaesthetic). Apparently I used to fuss over the bottle and they battled to get me to drink enough until they found the right formula (I still don't like milk!) so I wonder if maybe I haven't passed it on to Nina lol...

Julz - Good luck for tomorrow, thinking of you. X x X

Simone - I think I would've flipped my lid as well. Not fair when someone does something against everything you try so hard to enforce.

Vix - Shoo its a big decision to get sterilised! I don't think I could do it unless I had, I'm far too fickle so I'd probably end up chaging my mind lol You've obviously thought about it loads and if its going to make you happy then go for it

Zee- LMAO at Z wanting to pause the Teletubbies hehehe.

Ally - Thanks for the compliment, I can't say as I feel like supermum but I'm certainly enjoying it so hopefully that's the vibe that comes through my posts. Have a safe trip back. SUcks that we're going to miss you and the twins at the meet.

Yoza - Like Siba saying Buhle, Oliver can also say Nina, he only has maybe 10-20words in his vocab but Nina he could say almost immediately...weird.

Lisah, Lelani hope you both feel better soon.

Everyone else, hello! Can't remember anymore than that I'm afraid...

Have a lovely evening one and all

Oh joy...time for In the night garden!!!

Addy needs to sleep so I can watch dexter finale!

Oh I weighed her tonight...she`s 13.6kgs. A good weight;-)

Zee that's so funny about pausing the tubbies! Addy was watching it now as well. These girls are all the same...addy asks for pink ice cream and pink biscuits.

These kids!

How is the ttc going on your side? And hubby enjoying the new job? Sorry if I've lost the plot about the job???

Hi ladies

So went to fetch Addy but she didn't want any part of it. Told me: go home mama! Mil passed some comment again and I made it very clear how I felt so she said she`s coming to fetch Addison again but G must leave the carseat at home. I'm still pissed at my mom as I am told she was the instigator! I called her and gave her a mouthful this afternoon but she`s not at home for me to finish the conversation.

Another shocking thing is we get there and G`s 10 year old niece is alone with Addy outside...there`s a huge jungle gym, sandpit a pool that`s low enough for addy to climb into but deep enough for her to drown in! There`s bikes all around, trees, etc. A child`s dream but I feel it requires adult supervision....so I will make sure the car seat is never here so she can never take my child anywhere!

Ally travel safely! I also didn't want make up...by the time I saw her vannah had already done her face. She won't wear it out of the house.

Julz I hope u get to sleep tonight! What is the recovery time of the op?

Lisha and lelani...I hope u feel better soon!

Nicole how was day 2 pickup and how is the wrist?

Yoza u know I agree with Lisha about the weight! Hope u pop in more regularly now!

Angelique where are u?????????????????

Ally, have a safe trip back!

Lisha, so funny about Shrey and the new car. Everything belongs to them, hey! Congrats though!

Nicole, hope the pain is nothing serious ...

Vix, your gynae sounds nice, glad everything is fine.

Hey Yoza, cute about Siba calling Buhle.

Lelani, I'm jealous of the lap top, everyone in this house has a lap top (even Z) except me! Cute about the chippies eet!


Helen, hope Nina gets better and won't be constipated constantly ... It is awful.

I'm sure I've missed a lot of posts but someone is tugging at me and shouting something about doedoetyd and boekie lees (as if she'll go to bed now ...)

Bye xxx

Hi everyone

Hope you are all doing well. Going okay here. Z is just giving me a hard time because she wanted to pause the Teletubbies and the more I tell her that she cannot pause a damn TV show the more she persists: "Ek pause Tubbies, ek pause Tubbies," etc, etc.

Any hoo, Julz, good luck Hope all is well soon....


Simone
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So cute about Addy dressing up, Simone, I have to admit I just ignore Z when she wants to put make up, I don't have the strenght to do her's as well! In the week she doesn't mind what I dress her in, she's in a bad mood then but on weekends, she likes to pick something. She also likes pink and even asks for pink sweets