potty train from 4 month!

Vix obviously it makes no sense to you at all. And i understand your point of view. I just think for me it will work better with my cloth nappies to allow her to do esp poo on the potty than on the nappy. You r probably using disposables and it don't matter to you where they end up, how they affect the environment and how they will affect your baby in 20yrs time. And if you r using cloth nappies, maybe you have a good lady by your side who'll clean the soiled nappies for you. I don't. I don't afford it at all. So since it does no harm to my girl i will do it. And get the benefits of saving money and the environment and the stress of cleaning soiled nappies ones she start to eat solids. Bless you.

I just can't understand why (unless you REALLY can't afford diapers) why you would want to spend even more months potty training?

Just because you start at 4m doesn't mean it'll happen in the same time frame, surely a baby can't use a potty itself until it can walk un aided and as far as i was aware even the earliest developers only start at 9m and that is already 5m of potty training and still they can't pull their pants down?

My boy decided off his own back at 18m to wee in a potty and now he even takes his own pants off 3/4 months later.

I am totally not a 'new age' mum! again, lets let babies be babies shall we?

no one will ask when she's 20 "oh so what age were you potty trained" they don't require it on a CV!

Mom2LnB, I asked about it in this thread and barbara was so kind as to share her story.

www.moomie.co.za/forum/5-your-baby/83625...ons-about-ecing.html

pls forgive me for a long blog, i use a phone to log in but i thought we can all benefit. my family has been doing this 4 yrs and i just googled to see if sum 1 knew about it. bless you all

What is Infant Potty Training?
From Laurie Boucke

Question: What is Infant Potty Training?
Answer: Have you ever wondered how mothers managed without diapers in the past or how families toilet train in different cultures? I found there is a window of learning (sensitive period) open from birth to 6 months and that some babies remain receptive beyond this age.
I learned about infant pottying when my third child was just months old. I knew that I didn’t want go the full-time-diaper route again and was delighted to find a gentle, natural alternative that worked for us.
The basics of infant pottying involve learning your infant’s elimination body language, timing, patterns (in relation to feeding and waking) and/or vocalizations. In addition, many mothers instinctively know when their babies need to go. In short, it’s about communication between you and your baby.
The first hurdle is overcoming doubts and fears. The Western world has been indoctrinated to reject any form of early toilet learning. Our doubts stem from "medlore"– maturational readiness theories which are based on opinion rather than scientific proof. By changing our attitude from skepticism to recognizing our babies’ amazing abilities, we open new doors.
Our fears are also based on old psychology relating to a different toilet training method used in the 1920s–1940s. But with infant pottying, timing is based on baby’s natural rhythms and on communication between mother and baby. There is no punishment, anger or pressure involved. It is a gentle, baby-led approach.
Starting
Anticipate when your infant needs to go, then at that moment, make a watery sound such as "sssss" or say "pee pee" if you prefer. Alternatively, if your baby starts to go while you are observing her, immediately make the "sssss" sound. Within days, she will associate this sound with elimination.
When you think she needs to go, hold her gently and securely over your preferred toilet place while giving your audible signal. If it is near time to go, infants are able to relax those muscles and release their elimination upon receiving your cues. She will soon associate the sound, position and place with elimination. Use whatever location and receptacle are most comfy and convenient.
When?
The ideal time to start is anytime from birth to 4-5 months old. During this time, the first window for toilet learning is open.
How Long?
The average age of completion (where your child rarely has accidents anymore) in the West is around 2 years, although babies have good control of elimination for *many* months before completion. For example, some experience few or no soiled diapers from the day they start in early infancy but may need several more months to master control over urination.
What About Older Babies?
By using a modified version of this gentle practice, it is possible to start after 6 months.
Even after passing the first window, some babies will remain receptive. Others close down and then open up again, but there is no way to know when this might happen.
No matter what age your baby is when you first learn about it, I usually recommend that parents give this method a try for a few weeks, then assess whether you want to continue.
Safety
It is safe as long as parents have the right mind-set. Parents must be relaxed, positive and non-punitive when working with their babies. Forget perfectionism! We all experience misses and even a few setbacks along the way.
Does It Really Work?
Yes, but only with effort. Success does not happen on its own. It takes at least one committed adult and several months of perseverance and practice.
Clothing
Many parents keep a diaper or training pants on their baby in between potty visits, while others prefer to leave their baby bare-bottomed or naked most of the time.
Learning the Cues
Observe your baby closely while watching for elimination clues and cues. Some give clear and obvious cues, while signals from others are more subtle. It may take a while, but eventually you’ll start to notice something that happens around the time your baby needs to go. It might be easier to recognize signs for poos than pees.
Examples
Vocalizations:
fusses or cries before, during or after elimination
grunts before or during defecation
makes a unique toilet sound
Body language
remains briefly still and quiet
passes gas before defecation
squirms, wriggles or twists body
tenses or stiffens body
at night, squirms to awaken mother
moves (scoots, wiggles, crawls or walks) towards toilet place
grimaces
has look of concentration
flushes
stares into the distance
assumes piercing or imploring expression
looks or stares at bathroom, potty or other toilet place
kicks one or both legs or arms (sometimes frantically)
engages in unique leg position or movement
contracts abdomen while "pushing"
pats or grabs at crotch area
Behavior:
quick mood change from happy to grumpy or sullen
breaks from nursing, usually accompanied by a special "look"
suddenly stops or loses interest in activity
© 2004 Laurie Boucke. Used with permissio