hey gals
ally sorry friend, doesnt sound easy at all... wish you strength for friday!!
Nel pretty impressive to make pancakes with the kiddies, its so nice just to go with their suggestions and to see how happy it makes them!
My sister was saying about the 1, 2,3 thing that she now says, I am going to count to 3 and most times, she doesnt even need to start the count

how nice that we are all sharing that ONE RULE FITS ALL OF OUR BABIES, nice one Nel
Vix, thinking of you and excited to hear how your project is unfolding.. !! and what it is?? let us know when you can?
Lisha about the kids on the side of the road, I thnk it differs from community to community as to what the solution is.. you will need to investigate a litte more deeply i think about how to deal with this.. unfortunately its not black in white in our country since i dont think social welfaire will always be better.. so perhaps you can find out about specific charities that do help in these situations and ask for their advice, if you find a particularly good one, it might actually be better for the kids to be away from their parents, as it cant be a nice life.. although we all agree that family and love is stronger than money, its hard to know whether they are being loved and cared for or just simply abused and used! I am sure though that if you do intervene and get the law invovled, you would feel very responsible for the outcome! Your heart is a big one

Keep me informed !!
Helen yuk re next day, although glad you had fun that night. I honestly cant bare being so tired the next day so like you, drinking is not just an option if you go overboard anymore a bit sad as Im sure, you like me, also just wish to feel freedom of responsibility and for things to be FUN in the same way it used to be before kids arrived, but we"ve moved to far away to be able to reach that place now!! bloody kids!!
Julz - brilliant news re MRI , so hopefully pinpointing the problem areas might help you figure out how to stop all the pain!!
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Cameron is sleeping through again guys, its pure bliss!!
I am enjoying his independence at the mo, its just so important to him and if you let him just go with it, he is much happier, but i sure am learning patience
We are in limbo with the rental house, some of you saw on facebook that we found a cluster for rent and signed an agreement with the estate agent and it looks liek the owner who is abroad is finding issues and deciding whether to sell or rent, so only time will tell.. Im so excited to find such a lovelly place, so lets cross fingers that i get it..
For those of you who missed my previous post, our baby girls name is JENNA

we do reserve the right to change our minds before or at birth, but i love the name.. we are trying to keep it a secret from friends and have told only family besides you guys, but i just LOVE to tell

so haveee to tell you guys.. so dont load it on facebook pls!
Nelria 2 syllables is like le-a, or mi-a or man-dy two beats to the name, Nel-ri-a would be 3 syllables so it would be Jenna Mia Biart for example,as i think it would be too long to be Jenna amanda biart .. dont know if you are following at all, but if you dont get it, maybe one of the afrikaans girls know the afrikaans word for syllables
okay now, off to bed for an early night!