file I am so upset and horrified, what should I do?

15 years 4 months ago #191534 by Yaz
Dr. Theart @Cape Gate Medi Clinic - love him! And you?

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15 years 4 months ago #191514 by Newbie
ok great, yup waiting to hear from the homeopath, will keep you posted.. its a long process i think, will only know in a few weeks. What pead are u using btw...

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15 years 4 months ago #191505 by Yaz
Good idea, please keep us updated on what the docs say! My friend's hubby is a homeopath and apparently there is a homeopathic way of vaccinating against measles, mumps and rubella. She explained to me how it worked but I forgot :blush:

Yes, I'm in Durbanville. Just responded to your FB request :)

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15 years 4 months ago #191496 by Newbie
Thanks yaz, I actually have spoken to a few people, and apparently they can only tell what is happening if they actually hook you up to an EEG machine while u are having a fit. I will be speaking to a few people, peads, homeopaths as well as a GP and homeopath that specialise in Autism, to hear if they truly believe in the whole MMR-Autism link and about what other options are avialable to me instead of the MMR so I can ensure my little girl, Sienna's saftey.

So lets see! She has already had the measels and chickenpox vac and I am hoping i can maybe just give her the Rubella one a little later in life, when her immunity has built up. Rather that, then risk permant damage.

Staring fits is definitely a side affect from the chickenpox vaccine, having said that though, it is a very RARE side effect. I just feel that this has all happened for a reason and I need to really think about the next step.

i see you also stay in durbanville

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15 years 4 months ago #191491 by Yaz
Sjoe, Newbie, that sounds hectic! So sorry your LG had to go through so much trouble after her shots. Have you considered getting a second opinion from a different paed or maybe even immunologist? Surely there must be an explanation. Hugs

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15 years 4 months ago #191482 by Newbie
Wow, well funny enough, i have also been doing a bit of research into this matter.. I totally believe in vaccines, dont get me wrong, however when your only child, starts reacting to them, what do we do?? I have been very unfortunate that I have had my little girl go through hell each time she has had a vaccine.. and no she is not allergic to egg, therefore the measels vaccine shouldnt be a problem.

I am also now one of those moms that feel that the private vaccines, have been causing more harm than good. To date I havent had an issue with the "non-live" (government) vaccines, however recent discoveries have made me question it.

Here is my storey

Two days ago I took my 11 month old daughter for her chickenpox vaccine. I was only going to do it after 1 years old, however there have been a few reported cases of chicken pox here in the northern suburbs of Cape Town and her grandfather was in contact with the chickenpox at work and her, so I thought rather safe than sorry and took her.

That night after her vaccine, she seemed fine, no temperatures, nothing and I gave her some nurofen before putting her to bed as I generally do a few hours after a vaccine.. Well at about 7pm (an hr later), I walk into her room and just see her staring into space, no moans, no smiles, no crying, no temp, nothing.. I thought it a bit strange and I didn’t want to disturb her so I walked out.. Anyhow went back after 20 min and the same thing.. I started feeling a bit worried as this is not how my
daughter behaves. I took her temp, all clear and gave her water, she drank 300ml, which is a lot for her.
Anyhow left her and came back 20 min later, still just lying there.. I picked her up and started chatting to her, and she didn’t really respond much.. I then sat with her and about ten minutes later, she started babbling.. Anyone who knows my daughter knows that she never keeps quiet, even when she just wakes up.. She chats the hind legs off a donkey

Anyhow the next morning when she wakes, she is back to normal.. I did however phone the pediatrician as I was very worried.. He told me what can happen is that the live vaccine (BCG, Measles, Chickenpox and MMR) can attack very few but some babies central nervous system.. And can even cause fits.. Staring fits.. But in very few cases.. Now I am not sure if that is what my daughter had, but I have been told to keep an eye on her. I am concerned what damage has already been caused. Damage to her brain and body that I am not even aware of.

I know I shouldn’t be paranoid, but I am a first time mother and I am not really sure what to do as no one seems to have the answers. My pediatrician can’t really explain to me what happened to my daughter. This is a reality.

Before all of this happened, I was quite happy giving all the vaccines required. I can ashamingly admit, I wouldve actually pulled my nose up to any mom that didnt vaccinate.

I have done extra research and realized the following. In each case below when given the live vaccines, something has happened.
- BCG, we had to take her for x-rays at 4 months old as she had developed a lump under her arm, in her gland which luckily didn’t cause any damage to her lungs
- measles, she was sick for more than a week, with sky high temperatures, and evenutally a chest infection.
- chickenpox - what happened above, but not sure what might still come.. But I pray that nothing more will happen.. or that severe damage has not been done.

I am really considering not giving her the MMR as its another live vaccine and its not just because of the autism rumours. My gut
just tells me that all of this has happened for a reason and that I should be weary. There is something not right with what is happening to my little girl.

Is it not my duty to protect her, is that not the reason she was given to me, to protect?? I feel terrible and like such a horrible mother... How could I let this have happen to her.

Before people get upset with my choice, I have found no one but me at this present moment that I know has experienced what has happened to me with regards to the live vaccines..

I dont want to be seen as murdering my child, I am merely looking for other options and ways of doing things, as what is currently provided is hurting my little girl.

My honest gut feel, is that his has all happened for some reason, perhapsopen my eyes to the possiblity of what could happen to my baby and just maybe its signs for me to be warned. I cant think of why else this all happened and why I am somehow being warned about this all. not from what people say, but from my own personal expeirence.

I think all kids should be vaccinated, however there are cases where it might be dangerous and for that reason alone, there must be other options provided.

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15 years 4 months ago #191420 by Stilettomum
thanks for the update Sterretjie. i want to know what the natural cause is? Saying that is a very wide spectrum.

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