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15 years 4 months ago #189035 by Claudia_B
@ 1st timer wgy hasnt your james had the measles vax?? My James got his at 9 months? Or do you not get it if you opt for the triple in the MMR?

I know 3 GP's who chose to not vax...Although 2 of them were for ethical reasons (certain vaxs contain human foetal cells which some religeous groups object to) (Jehovahs witness so they also wouldnt take blood or organs)

The last measles outbreak in Durbs, most the kids that got it had been vaccinated (so admittedly they were very mild cases) because vaccines are not 100% effective (eg the BCG only offers between 65 - 75% protection against TB).

Please note, that clearly I think vaccination is worth while and that I do not advocate not vaxing (especially in SA with the number of immunocompromised individuals), I just think - like with artificial colourants, flavourings, sometimes we put far too much rubbish into our bodies and that this constant push for the development of new vaccines is exposing our bodies to more and more foreign bodies.
Epecially in illnesses that dont cause mass problems in huge portions of the population. A case in point in a recent bulletin from the Health Professionals Council (we get regular magazines) MOST doctors do not get the flu vaccine,do not get it for their families, yet its marketed every year.
I dont think Docs make money from pushing vaccines - but I do think that because its a public health issue they are taught from day 1 to be pro vaccination and then dont take parents concerns seriously. Much the same as there are many doctors who still dont believe there is a link between some food dyes and behavioural problems.

Mom to one little boy born 21 April 2010
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15 years 4 months ago #188995 by Reluc.t.ant M.o.m
Karma comes and goes ........ and such is life ....... but yes a smiley face might have made me love you a bit less .... but still like you a great deal.

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I abhor smiley face icons. Just saying.

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15 years 4 months ago #188967 by 1st Timer
Ooh thanks! (I would smiley face but suspect I would then lose said karma....)

Son, James, born 30 April 2010 by caesar
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15 years 4 months ago #188951 by Reluc.t.ant M.o.m
<1st Timer I am going to push your good karma button right now, because I am rather liking you .... but that's just me....>

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dirtylittlesecretsmotherskeep.wordpress.com/

Location: CY country
Off spring: 3 (ages range from 2 - 9 years old)

Struggling to juggle life, kids, work, my bottle of wine, without having a total humour failure.

I have a letter from my pdoc to say I am insane, so tread lightly with me, some days I can be a total bitch. I'm lying. Most days I am a total bitch.

I abhor smiley face icons. Just saying.

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15 years 4 months ago - 15 years 4 months ago #188937 by 1st Timer
So my theory is, I worked in finance I have 11 tears of tertiary qualification in finance. And then you get your average mom and pop who try play the stock market. And they drive me insane because they think they can read a company with a minimum of knowledge and chuzpah whereas experienced people like me still have to do days and days of in depth research. So I ask the paeds and GPs and gynaes and they ALL vaccinate. And they should know right? This is their job. And don't tell me they are biased due to pharmaceutical payoffs because 1. They are vaccinating their own kids and 2.if you really think your doctor is giving you tainted information you have bigger issues! SO yes, I vaccinate.

If you don't fine for you.

BUT I have recently found out a friend of mine did not vaccinate her 2y old for anything and I am exceedingly pissed off that she did not tell me. Her son is a year older than mine and has been in a playgroup enviroment and then comes home and plays with my son. James is too young for the measles vaccine (for example) but would be seriously affected by contracting it. If you don't vaccinate your kids then please inform the parents of the kids they play with as I don't really want my newborn around you unnecessarily.

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15 years 4 months ago #188922 by memo
I'm sure lots of you remember how many times I brought up this decision. (desperately hoping Moomie can make this tough decision for me)
I've done the minimum and still had second thoughts on our last visit where he got the measels and also hep A vacs..
I had a 'just wait a second' moment as she was about to jab and then the reasurance.. "you're doing the right thing, these are important"
I hate the idea of injecting my healthy baby with god knows what. But as Claudia once reminded me we do live in a country that basically has a open border. (Not sure those with your exact words but anyway...something like that)
So I'm not getting ALL of them, but I got the ones the goverment requires and then those last two.
J has never had any side effects from vacs.
I never give him meds or even another thought after having them done.

Natural birth mom, breastfeeding.
Baby boy born 17 March 2010

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